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 A mini roundabout sign in Barnstaple - even though the roundabout itself was removed over a year ago! EDIT JULY 2006 - this sign has now been moved 50 yards up the road to another roundabout. Barnstaple |
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| Correct me if I'm wrong, but there is still a roundabout around slightly further down. Admittedly it doesn't go anywhere (the BF carpark and the station's bus stop), and I guess you can't really call it a mini-roundabout, but that's probably why it's still there! |
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| River Yea just above Hewish (didn't think it was big enough for an East and West) should be YEO. |
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| The spur's route is now the route of the New Weston radial road, a dual carriageway, taking advantage of the strange layout of the A370 at the Western end of the roundabout. but this wasn't built until at least a few decades later, so I think the whole thing was set up for this spur route, up until the spur itself was cancelled. |
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| dEAR DAVID,
Great website; interesting old pics of various raod related issues, eg old roads/signs. I wonder if you can answer a question that's always bugged me: do you happen to know why only a short section of A41(M) motorway was opened around Tring?
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| Hi Paul,
A quick search of the A41(M) page on "Pathetic Motorways" reveals the answer, thanks to Robert Wooley.
"I used to work for Hertfordshire CC in the Environment Dept.
The A41(M) was despecialised in the late 1980s when it became clear that it woudn't join up with other motorways and authority was given for the Berkhamstead By-pass. Also, the signs were in need of replacement so the County Council considered that replacement with green all-purpose road signs would make more sense.
Hence the road was despecialised."
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 Into the town centre, and this sign is just plain wrong. The sign says the road off to the right is a primary B3235, when it is actually a non-primary A386! Road Signs |
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| WESTWARD HO! How dare they abbreviate the best destination name in the country??!! |
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 ...and to finish it all off, more of that awful patching on the road from Instow. Road Signs |
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| The yellow backing means diversion (there should be an earlier diversion start sign). The torrington and Okehampton to the right has a 3T limit. It would make sense if you;d just driven past the diversion sign. |
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 Patched up sign at Blackmoor Gate, Devon. Road Signs |
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| At Blackmoor Gate, note the even more dreaded sign: "Cream Teas. Coaches Welcome". |
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| I find it funny how the elephants are walking towards their respective homes! |
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 Illegal '20 zone' sign in Aberdeen - the ring should be red to make it enforcable. Road Signs |
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| The sign is not "illegal" -- it simple refers, as you say, to a legally unenforceable (i.e. recommended) speed limit, hence the (deliberate) use of a green ring. There are many similar signs (except that the ring is grey) near school crossing places and school bus stops in South Wales. |
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 A new fingerpost sign in Barnstaple, Devon. These signs are being put up rapidly across Devon. Also note the unusual border - these are common across Devon too. Road Signs |
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| The edging indicates the suitability or otherwise of the road for heavy traffic. Although I can't recall the exact definitions used, the "hierarchy" in descending order is black, blue, brown, and lastly no edging (i.e., all white) for purely local lanes.
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 Incorrect Red Chevron signs in Barnstaple - the signs should be black and white. Road Signs |
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| That's a hell of a gap they've gotta fit through though. The signs are red probably for high visibility. |
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 A bad patch on a sign on the Exeter bypass at the Middlemoor roundabout. That (B3181) just looks awful there. I wonder what was underneat the patch before? Exeter |
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| I reckon it probably just said B3181, without the brackets. Ten or so years ago, the A30 turned into the B3183 west of the M5 and the A3015 didn't exist. So this section of road actually *was* the B3181.
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 The A38 somewhere in Devon during holiday period in the 1950's. Other Photos |
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| Comment re "A38 ... holiday period in the 1950's":
Must have been 1960s, as the Austin/Morris 1100 wasn't introduced until 1962.
The Triumph Herald was a bit earlier, 1959.
There's also a Hillman Imp, behind the white 1100, centre screen, and that was introduced in 1963.
Judging by the numbers of 1100s, Heralds & the Imp, I'd say it was about 1964.
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| The most recent of several widening schemes on this goddam bridge. There seems to be permenant roadworks on it! |
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 Old A361 in Filleigh, Devon, looking towards South Molton. Other Photos |
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| It's actually Filleigh not Swimbridge :o) |
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 Unusual style on the B3232 at Newton Tracey. Lampposts |
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 Standard style on main roads - A361 near Tarka Inn, Chivenor. Lampposts |
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| Simmons Simbol Bollards, and likley to be a Simmons Globe too. |
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 Unusual style lamppost in Berrynarbor. Lampposts |
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 Standard style on A361, Braunton with a longer mast arm. Lampposts |
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 Standard style on A361, Braunton with a short mast arm. Lampposts |
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 New style in Braunton with unusual black head. Lampposts |
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 New style in Braunton with unusual black head. Lampposts |
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 Standard style on B3231, Braunton with a longer mast arm. Lampposts |
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 Standard style on B3231, Braunton with a short mast arm. Lampposts |
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 New M626 Pudsey-Disforth motorway, new motorway linking M621 and A58(M), and a few other changes. Fantasy Maps and Road Layouts |
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The M626 wouldn't be too hard to do as the Stanningley bypass could be upgraded for a fair part of it - it's Expressway grade from your junction 2 to junction 3 although you'd have to do something about the southern end of the ring road. Where does it go after junction 3 though - it looks like it would head for a junction 4 at the airport, and then cut across country between Bramhope and Cookridge to Harewood to meet the A1 at Wetherby. |
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| Build this now!! I live right between junctions 2 and 3 on the M37 here and it would improve my life no end, not to mention putting good use to the woefully under-used M5 junction 20. |
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| Wouldn't it be easier to upgrade the A4174 From Siston To Hartcliffe, extend it through the initial proposed route at highridge green THEN taking this M37 down towards 'Ilfracombe International'? |
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 A concrete column on a Bridgwater industrial estate. Lampposts |
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 Unusual sign on A39 near Bridgwater. Road Signs |
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| So, once they've strayed for 2 miles, what do they do? just sit there and wait? :) |
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 60mph and speed camera repeater along the A361 NDLR. Road Signs |
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| I still think that the big blue signs were more effective than these piddly little things. Especially the one as you come off the Dual Carraigeway at Tiverton... |
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 Can the sign makers make their mind up what road this is?! How can they put two different numbers on the same sign?! This road is actually the B3230. Road Signs |
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| Obviously the sign is showing what route these towns or villages are on |
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 Unusual fingerpost sign - presumably this is a public right of way, otherwise it wouldn't be signed. Road Signs |
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| Whoever erected the sign can't think much of the local drivers' powers of observation. |
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 Concrete post being replaced in yelland. Lampposts |
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 Not the A39. Not the A361. Just what is this road? Well, it is the A361, but that sign claims otherwise... Road Signs |
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| road numbers in brackets indicate that you should follow that route to reach that road. eg first exit on roundabout to reach the M5, A39 and A361. if this road was any of those numbers then it would not be in brackets. |
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| That's clearly a non-worboys sign though. |
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| The A38 near Bideford?
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| Whoops - a typo! Mistake now corrected. |
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 This sign's seen better days. A4018 Bristol. Road Signs |
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| Hurrah for BCC expenditure... |
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 Classic conflicting message. At entrance to Woolacombe Bay Holiday Park on the Mortehoe road. Road Signs |
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| Twitchen is owned by Woolacombe Bay. You can even see the WB symbol below the arrow. |
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 'Barnhenge' is it's official name, but locally they have been dubbed 'Moanhenge' - £120,000 spent on these stones in the middle of Sticklepath Roundabout. Barnstaple Western Bypass |
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| £120k !!!!!!!
As my old gran used to say: "It never ceases to amaze me as to what folk would rather have than money…"
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 'Hidden Sign' as a result of a closure of the M4 Second Severn Crossing. Road Signs |
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| Indeed, the 'M48 Bridge closed' sign is rare enough, but the M4 Bridge closed sign, I've never seen before. I've never known the second severn crossing to close anyway! |
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| urm - 'cos we c***** it up -sorry about that |
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| urm - you mean it was D2M before ???
- the Dept of Transport [as it was called at the time] would not pay for the bridges to be widened [unlike south of J3]. Worse still, further cost-cutting dictated that even the hardshoulders were cheaply cambered TOWARDS lane 1 in the cuttings !
And we ended/started the widening 1/2 mile short of J4 until the proposed link to the M42 was finally abandoned. |
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| This is about where the widening ended until the 1980's |
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| Ah well -that was more cost-cutting again ----
DTp would not pay for new bridges when that M42 link was abandoned -so we had to squeeze through with three lanes. And it WAS a squeeze -if I remember rightly, the lanes here were made a little "thin" ! |
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| I did persuade them to let me nail one of my signs on the bridge face though! |
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 M42 coming up. The hatching on the right is for sightline purposes - not a fourth lane. M5 motorway |
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| Yes, correct -although I always hoped that the hatched bits would facilitate the provision of four lanes very easy from Jct 4 to J4A |
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| Wonderful old map of Gravesend! It's interesting to see how much it has changed in the last 50-years or so. |
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| I'm fairly certain the S4 section of the A48 (between M4/28 and the western end of the SDR) is 50mph, not 40 as suggested in the caption for this photo. |
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| Yes, you're right - this section is 50 as well. |
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 Incorrect sign on the A358 in Henlade - showing the road as non-primary. A358/A303 dualling |
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| Surely the sign is correct - it is a "local" sign denoted by the blue border and the A358 is duly shown in its primary green? |
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| Although most of the bypass was strange extra-wide "WS2", the section where it went over the hill was always two lanes up each incline approaching the hilltop to accomodate the passing of slower vehicles, reducing to one lane downhill as seen here. I don't ever recall there being anything different here, there were never any "ex-white lines" to be seen. Only the sections either side of this hill were upgraded to the 2:1/1:2 style to match this bit. |
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| I can confirm Adrian's comment is correct. |
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| Looks like it's needed for strength, rather than sighting |
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| I want a frog sign. No really, I do. |
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 Wig Wags at a level crossing in Dunster, near Minehead, which don't have the new red and white border. Traffic Signals |
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| David, these are NRS Wig-Wag signal heads. |
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| Again, NRS Wig-Wags here too. |
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 A temporary pedestrian crossing near Bideford. Traffic Signals |
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2008-05-11 12:24:01 |
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| These are PEEK Elite 12v LED signals used by SRL Light Signals for thier Temporary Products. |
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 The push button unit. Traffic Signals |
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2008-05-11 12:25:20 |
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| AGD Ltd PBU supplied by PEEK Traffic for SRL for use on thier pedestrian signals. |
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 The reason for the crossing - a footpath closure. Traffic Signals |
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2007-05-13 14:31:19 |
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| these are SRL ltd temp signals, using peek elite heads. |
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 A new traffic signal waiting to be put up at the Square in Barnstaple. Traffic Signals |
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2008-05-11 12:30:35 |
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| PEEK Elite with A1 Ltd border. |
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 A466 between Monmouth and Chepstow. Traffic Signals |
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2008-05-11 12:28:36 |
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| Mellors of some discription, probably Plessey or Page. I assume these were not short circuiting, and were cought between red & amber and green phases. |
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 New signals on the A361 in Barnstaple. Traffic Signals |
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2008-05-11 12:31:08 |
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| Siemens Helios |
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| These Portable signals are made by Hollco Limited (www.hollco.co.uk ) |
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 'Permament' temporary lights on the B3230 in Ilfracombe. Traffic Signals |
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2007-05-13 14:30:05 |
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| hi, these are plessey mellor signals |
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2008-05-11 12:22:24 |
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| Plessey Mellor signals here. |
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 The old traffic signals at Pilton Bridge in Barnstaple. Traffic Signals |
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2008-05-11 12:29:42 |
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| Mellors (possibly GEC) at the second junction, Siemens Helios at the first. |
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| these are siemens helios signals |
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| ... Except that they're not. The old alignment of the road is left of the new alignment, as a visit to Woodside Garage shows (there're remains of catseyes in the forecourt), and the gated off bit of the B3227 before the Bish Mill roundabout (or after if you're heading this way!) |
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 We're now about to go over an old railway viaduct. From here on. we follow the trackbed of the old Barnstaple to Taunton railway. North Devon Link Road |
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| The trackbed is followed from earlier - a small section before Bonners Bridge, and permantly from just after BB. |
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| I should point out that the section of the link road between here and Aller Cross is NOT on the old rail line - it infact bypasses an old railway tunnel. What I meant by the commeht is that from here until Barnstaple, we don't leave the course of the old railway. |
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| The A377 is a primary route and is nonetheless signed on a white directional sign. So anyone who's looking out for primary routes has a pretty good chance to miss this road. |
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 Now the ceremonies are over, I go driving around waiting for the road to open. I spotted this brand new sign with incorrect patching. Barnstaple Bypass Opening |
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| OIC! You do get to Bideford on the A39 (bracketed) but not via the A361! |
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| I use this section from Bideford to Braunton every weekday. The middle lane should really be for the second lane out of pottington and the 'school' road to Pilton. Who makes these Decisions? |
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| Ahh! Shoulda been in the second lane! |
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 Past junction 2, and another RCS. I wish they were consistant. Folkestone to Glasgow - and back |
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| I've never seen the use of 'M-way' before. |
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 The bridge will pass over the railway here. It looks very high, especially as we're about to dive under it!You can see one embankment on the other side of the rail line. A38 Dobwalls bypass |
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| You have some excellent cloud formations on this series of images.
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2008-02-11 22:48:21 |
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| Interesting set of photos - I know the road well! A bit of history: one reason for the variable standard of the road is that the dualling has been done piecemeal over a long period so that the design criteria aren't necessarily constant. In fact the original single carriageway Ashbuton Bypass goes back I think to before the Second World War (now part of the dual carriageway set up). The other thing I would mention is the difficult terrain west of Exeter making motorway gradients impossible to achieve. This has echoes of Brunel and the railway from Newton Abbot to Plymouth which again has steep grades so much so that extra engines would be employed in the steam days to get up the hills.
Thanks very much for these enjoyable pictures. |
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The roundabout ahead sign (diag 510) is used in advance. |
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 Massive changes in the City Centre with the new Broadmead Shopping Centre. Bristol |
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| Exactly a year on from this pic, and Cabot Circus is now fully open. I'm in cardiff now, so I don't know if it's any better, but during construction this section was a real bad bottleneck. The lanes are also devilishly narrow, and the Newfoundland Way junction is poorly designed. |
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| Note the bus using the M32 in the other direction. Not a common moroway sight. They're building a bus lane for a section of the M32 now, with much opposition from local motorists. Good luck to the council in pulling this off. |
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 An unusual diagrammatic, and directions to the wonderfully named Fishponds. Bristol |
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| Ha ha! Cracking photos! Brings back a lot of memories. I grew up in Fishponds! |
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| Note the original Aztec West lamposts in the foreground. These have been around as long as I can remember. Always seemed very graceful and quite futuristic when I were a lad in the late 80s. |
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| Aha! But did you also know the proposed North Bristol Tram was meant to follow this route too? It was due to terminate at a park & ride site just north of the M5. |
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| This side road is called the Worthys and I lived there when I was a toddler! We became sadly broke in Bradley Stoke, and managed to move back to Brislington. |
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 This bit is dual - but where's all the traffic. Bristol |
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| A very quiet housing estate for such a grandiose dual carriageway.
I believe there were plans for this to have been some sort of North Bristol link road, joining the ring road further South. However, how this was ever going to happen is a mystery to me! |
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| Carhampton Lane?!?! Don't you mean Coldharbour Lane? |
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| The imaginitively named "Link Road". Funnily enough, there is a completely separate "Link Road" within the British Aerospace grounds on the right hand side of the next roundabout! Lack of imagination and laziness on somebody's part!! |
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 It even has its own zebra crossing! Bristol |
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| ...and it used to be a very dangerous GSJ. Thankfully it's now been redesigned, still one of the more odd GSJ's you'll ever see. They love mucking about with the road layouts in this vincinity! |
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| This junction is a real mess. You would have thought they would've redesigned it with the construction of the mall. But they're probably scared of disturbing the railway line linking to the severn tunnel. |
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 You can see ahead on the new road where works on the central reservation have progressed. A38 Dobwalls bypass |
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2008-09-04 20:32:40 |
Left by Pamela Witney-Simms (#1092060) |
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| Hi David, I just discovered your pics of the bypass - I have hundreds of photos too! Being a villager myself I have found it all very interesting and felt compelled to document it. If you have the latest Villager magazine, one of my photos appears in it, being first prize in the competition. I like your gallery. Pam |
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 However, it's time to throw a spanner in the works. The while line in no imaginable way lines up with the Leonard Moor Bridge. Nor is there any evidence of another parallel bridge or road alignment. The stone wall of the existing bridge can just be seen next to the white van. Every single map that shows the old alignment also confirm that this road went over that bridge - so that;s one unsolved mystery already. Tiverton Parkway - a hidden history |
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| It's a long shot but when the A361 was being built I seem to remember the traffic to Sampford Peverell being temporarily diverted sharply left after the railway bridge. Could this have been down the old alignment and account for the mystery at the old bridge? I seem to remember quite alot of temporary ramping. I only drove to S-P about 3 times a year and soon after these alterations my own journeys were diverted to Exeter via the A303! So this is only an unreliable guess - it's a long time ago.
Excellent site.
Sirion Leggate |
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 Up towards Havett Hill now. A38 Dobwalls bypass |
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| what is the structure across the carriageway in picture "up towards Havett Hill now" ? |
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